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Re: Could somebody use SCSH, Sheme, or Lisp to create the "Lispm" archit

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Subject: Re: Could somebody use SCSH, Sheme, or Lisp to create the "Lispm" architecture.
From: "Harri Haataja" <harri.haataja@cs.helsinki.fi>
Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2003 01:53:21 +0300
Organization: The ones who help to set the Sun
Christopher C. Stacy wrote:

>>>>>> On 03 Apr 2003 09:08:33 +0200, Ketil Malde ("Ketil") writes:
>  Ketil> More specific question: how is security achieved, when
>  everything's Ketil> open, and communciation is done through
>  unrestricted, shared objects? Ketil> The reasons given doesn't sound
>  very convincing, looking from a Ketil> malicious user perspective.
> 
> It's a single-user system and there is no protecting the user from
> himself, if he decides to be self-malicious.

System protections[1] aren't there for users. They are there to protect
various resources from *programs*. Users may or may not be somewhere
behind some program that happened to call a chain of dozen others, but
that has nothing to do with things. Neither has this hypothetical
creature's intentions. It's all about programs for any system.


[1] No, you never protect. You just allow. What is not allowed
(=implemented) is impossible. There is no concept "protect".


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