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Re: Scsh (a Unix Scheme shell) FAQ

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Subject: Re: Scsh (a Unix Scheme shell) FAQ
From: Yoann Padioleau <padiolea@cripure.irisa.fr>
Date: 16 Jan 2003 16:09:58 +0100
Organization: IRISA, Campus de Beaulieu, 35042 Rennes Cedex, FRANCE
"Anton van Straaten" <anton@appsolutions.com> writes:

> Yoann Padioleau wrote:
> > i dont see TCO as part of the design of scheme, but more to the design
> > of the compiler.
> > I prefer than a langage designer focus on programmer productivity rather
> > than program efficiency (that is why i hate all those C/C++/... langages).
> 
> The mistake that C/C++ makes is that they strike the wrong balance between
> programmer productivity and program efficiency.  That's a big issue that
> Scheme addresses very successfully.
> 
> Programmer productivity and program efficiency can't always be completely
> separated, and certainly not in the case of tail-call optimization.  Without
> TCO, a recursive programming style would often not be practical.  Without a
> recursive programming style, much functional programming would not be
> possible.  So tail-call optimization is an important feature for programmer
> productivity.

True. The only things i said is that i prefer a designer to focus
on programmer productivity. but i agree with you that you cant
always forget about efficiency.

> 
> As I said in another reply just posted, the point is to enable programmer
> productivity, by ensuring that a programmer can rely on high-level
> abstractions without paying an undue performance penalty.
> 
> This is one reason why it is possible to write systems like, say, the
> symbolic mathematics program JACAL
> (http://www.swiss.ai.mit.edu/~jaffer/JACAL.html) in Scheme.  Even if someone
> was perverse enough to write such a system in Perl, the performance would be
> likely to be unacceptable.  (Although, with a water-cooled hyperthreaded
> 3GHz Intel Xeon, who knows?)
> 
> Anton
> 
> 
> 

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          Yoann  Padioleau,  INSA de Rennes, France,
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