John Ousterhout (firstname.lastname@example.org) wrote:
: In article <5ihaol$n3g@Masala.CC.UH.EDU>, cosc19z5@Bayou.UH.EDU
: |> ...
: |> As for Tcl, it's there for one reason and one reason only -- strong
: |> corporate backing. We've got a powerful company that wants to
: |> make a quick buck and therefore is using its clout to force
: |> Tcl down our throats. This is the same tactic used by charlatans
: |> like Micro$oft. Indeed that's the only possible explanation
: |> as to why a glorified text preprocessor would even get a second
: |> look -- that and the fact that it is riding on the coattails
: |> of Tk.
: Sorry for taking so long to respond to this comment, but I couldn't stop
: laughing long enough to compose a response.
Is that also the reason why you didn't bother answering any of the
numerous posts that raised very legitimate questions about your
motivations, and Tcl in general?
I find it very interesting that you ignored all these interesting
posts, and when you chose to followup, you chose a followup where
you cut everything except one passage that necessitated nothing
more than a smug response on your behalf.
You know, if I didn't know any better I'd say you were avoiding
the other posts. I wonder why?
: I wish your accusation were
: true, but I'm afraid you are a bit out of touch. Apparently you haven't
: heard of a language called Java, which is the main thing Sun is pushing
: these days?
Gee Java, what's that? Yes I know about Java, how on Earth could
anyone not know about Java? Java this, Java that. Yes, for the
love of Shub Niggurath -- the goat with a thousand young, I know
Could you tell that the Java hype is getting to me just a wee
: We're a small player in comparison. Also, how do you explain
: the 100,000 or so people who learned Tcl while I was still a lowly
: professor at Berkeley? Was that just a powerful university trying to
: make a quick buck and using its clout to force Tcl down people's throats?
Ok, pay attention Mr. Ousterhout, I'm about to do something that you've
been avoiding all along. I'm about to directly address an issue
relating to something I said! Yes, pay close attention so that you'll
know what to do if you actually decide to do this yourself (as
unlikely as that may seem):
My statement was exxagerated. I still maintain that Tcl does have
corporate backing, but my comparison with M$ and statements about
having it rammed down our throats was an (unintentional) exxageration.
Indeed, comparing any organization with M$ is the sort of thing
that should be done with extreme care, and in doing this, I have
unjustly insulted Sun, which has not done anything (yet) to warrant
the kind of contempt bred by Bill & Co. I'm no fan of Sun, but
comparing them to M$ is very unfair.
There, I have admitted my mistake, are you man enough to admit yours?
: Yes, I mean "we". Many many people have participated
: in this sinister plot, including Larry Wall, Dennis Ritchie, Bill Gates,
: the Bureau of ATF, most of the LAPD, and Mark Fuhrman (sorry you guys, but
: the truth has overwhelmed me so I've been forced to expose you). I feel
: just terrible at how I have set the programming world back, and I promise
: to be a good boy from now on.
I'm very glad that you are enjoying this Mr. Ousterhout. You've
blundered, people are criticizing you, and you are in a position
where you can learn something, possibly even do something to further
computing, yet you just take this as a joke.
I'm very happy that you find this funny.
: Now that that's over with, you can all get back to work now.
Yes, I'm sure you have a few more "gems" to release to the reading