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Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot with latest paper

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Subject: Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot with latest paper
From: bs@research.att.com (Bjarne Stroustrup)
Date: Tue, 22 Apr 1997 12:51:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T Research, Murray Hill, NJ, USA
From: Thant Tessman <thant@nospam.acm.org> writes

 > Obligatory Ousterhout slam:  The argument I hate the most from people is "X 
 > is better than Y because more people use X than Y."   This argument is 
 > particularly infuriating when it comes from people like Ousterhout and 
 > Stroustrup and Gates because they are clearly content to perpetuate people's 
 > ignorance of superior alternatives, thus protecting their trump-card 
 > argument.  
 > (Not that it's their job to inform people of superior alternatives.)

An Hmmm. I don't know what - if anything - Ousterhout said to deserve
that label, and I find it hard to think of something significant to say
that applies to "Ousterhout and Stroustrup and Gates."

I do not think that I ever said:

        "C++ is better than Y because more people use C++ than Y."

To repeat what I posted last time someone accused me of making
that argument in comp.lang.c++:

        The furthest I go is to claim that unless C++ had at least some
        of the virtues I claim for it, it would have died during the
        early years where there were essentially no C++ marketing and
        alternatives languages with marketing dollars behind them existed.

        Naturally, even that is invariably mistaken for the disreputable
        "5 million morons cannot be wrong" argument :-(

I recommend "The Design and Evolution of C++" (Addison-Wesley) for people
who are interested in what I actually claim for C++.

        - Bjarne

Bjarne Stroustrup, AT&T Research, http://www.research.att.com/~bs/homepage.html


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