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Re: Lisp is neither (was Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot)

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Subject: Re: Lisp is neither (was Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot)
From: hbaker@netcom.com (Henry Baker)
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 1997 13:03:06 GMT
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In article <yd3esg6hqz.fsf@CLYDE.BOLTZ.CS.CMU.EDU>, Scott Fahlman
<sef@clyde.boltz.cs.cmu.edu> wrote:

> The Lisp Machines had a hellacious learning curve.  If you could
> invest the months required to learn all their tricks, they provided a
> software-development environment that has still not been surpassed.
> But even some accomplished Lisp programmers never had time to get over
> "the hump", and non-Lispers faced a really frightening barrier.
> The documentation was designed for people who already knew the answer,
> and Symbolics was remarkably unhelpful unless you wanted to spend a
> week and a few thousand dollars for a training course. 

Gee, the courses that Novell & many others teach cost as much or more,
and when you get out, all you know is some real niggly bit-pushing stuff.

I agree that the LispM documentation could have been better for beginners,
but I think that most would agree it left the documentation of most
competitors--including some pretty large companies--in the dust.

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