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Re: Scheme disutility

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Subject: Re: Scheme disutility
From: Russ McManus <mcmanr@nytrdc058.eq.gs.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 01:51:10 GMT
Organization: International Equities - Goldman, Sachs & Co
brian-

bdc@berne.ai.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom) writes:

> 
> I have given up on the elders in the Scheme community. They have never
> had the practicality of Larry Wall or John Ousterhout. Guile has been
> going off in the wrong direction, making choices based on GPL politics.
> 

what choices are you referring to?  you are painting with a
very wide brush at this point.

> Although many will not agree with this (and this is just my opinion),
> Cygnus's Kawa is the last/best hope for the Scheme community. It is the
> only Scheme implementation that could have a chance to add all the
> necessary extras to gather enough support in the form of a user
> community. I really hope this happens.
> 

i also think that the scheme community needs to make scheme
a practicle choice.  compiling scheme to the jvm is definitely
part of the answer.  

so is a portable way to interface scheme and c, which the guile
project is attempting to establish via the gh interface/library.
details are included in the guile documentation.

so is multi-language syntax, which the guile project is addressing.

so is a standard module system.  this one no one has addressed.
the only hope here is that a particular implementation gains
enough mind share to become a de facto standard.

i would anticipate that the guile project is going to continue
it's steady improvement, because of the FSF backing and it's
commitment to provide a practicle programming environment.

i don't know about the long term goals of the kawa project,
or it's prospects for continued improvments.  maybe i could
use some education here.  why do you think that kawa is the
  "only Scheme implementation that could have a chance to add 
   all the necessary extras to gather enough support"?

-russ

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