Henry Baker wrote:
> In article <firstname.lastname@example.org>, email@example.com (Mark A
> Harrison) wrote:
> > Example: My former roomate (mid-80's) was a chip designer. He had
> > two giant systems on his desk, a lisp machine (TI Explorer?) and
> > an Apollo. He was always complaining about how inconvenient it
> > was that part of his work was done on the lisp machine (chip design)
> > and that the rest was done on the Apollo (word processing, email,
> > manufacturing apps).
> This is complete BS. The lisp machines had fabulous email systems,
> and Symbolics went to a great deal of trouble to make TeX run on its
> Lisp Machine.
Lisp machines may have had fabulous email systems, but how much good
does that do if the rest of the company is running on *another* email
system? You want to buy lisp machines for every secretary and marketing
rep, just so they can all use the same email system?
And who told you that TeX was an acceptable format for WP documents in
I realize this sounds goofy today, when email is 99+% IP/SMTP and every
system that supports email supports that standard, but even today you get
similar problems when some schmoe decides to run a braindead product like
MS-Mail -- every UNIX user on the system then has to either get a bitty
box crippled with an MS operating system or scream in rage at what MS-mail
does to the formatting as it makes its pathetic attempt to convert to
"standard" email format. Normally this is a mere annoyance, but if part
of the mail you're passing is sourcecode, getting the format hashed or
unexpected line breaks or quote characters inserted can kill you.
If everybody else in the company was running some proprietary email system
and the lisp machine/software wasn't compatible with it (PC-pursuit anyone?
or FIDOmail? ) then it really doesn't matter how good the lisp machine's
email facilities are/were.
In exactly the same way, it doesn't matter how good any language is, if
it can't call out to the compiled C code that everyone else in the company
is writing and produce compiled modules that can be called from the C
that everyone else in the company is writing. Being good isn't enough;
email systems and development tools also have to fit in their environment.