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Re: Lisp is neither (was Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot)

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Subject: Re: Lisp is neither (was Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot)
From: "M. Prasad" <prasadm@polaroid.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 1997 14:01:24 -0400
Organization: Polaroid
Reply-to: prasadm@polaroid.com
Henry Baker wrote:
> 
> In article <5jg060$q3f$1@news.utdallas.edu>, mharriso@utdallas.edu (Mark A
> Harrison) wrote:
> > Lisp machines died because their
> > functionality was supplanted by other more general purpose machines.
> >
> > Example: My former roomate (mid-80's) was a chip designer.  He had
> > two giant systems on his desk, a lisp machine (TI Explorer?) and
> > an Apollo.  He was always complaining about how inconvenient it
> > was that part of his work was done on the lisp machine (chip design)
> > and that the rest was done on the Apollo (word processing, email,
> > manufacturing apps).  When their software group was able to port
> > their applications to the same box their other applications ran
> > on, they dropped the lisp machine without hesitation.
> 
> This is complete BS.  The lisp machines had fabulous email systems,

If this experience is BS, what is the truth?  Why _did_
the Lisp machines die?  People keep blaming "marketing", but
did LMI/Symbolics founders not have enough smarts or the money
to hire some good marketing people?  I would doubt either
of these two was the case.

Or maybe the machines were just too expensive to produce,
to be able to sell them successfully.

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