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Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot with latest paper

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Subject: Re: Ousterhout and Tcl lost the plot with latest paper
From: bouncenews@contessa.phone.net (Mike Meyer)
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 09:24:41 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
In <MPG.dc132702ba2447198977a@news.demon.co.uk>, 
cyber_surfer@gubbish.wildcard.demon.co.uk (Cyber Surfer) wrote:
> With a mighty <19970417.7DC0A38.8702@contessa.phone.net>,
> bouncenews@contessa.phone.net uttered these wise words...
> 
> > Most programming languages (including
> > ports from Unix) include facilities to talk to these applications.
> So what are people arguing over? The choice of scripting language is 
> irrelevant, if the app doesn't dictate any specific language.

Unfortunately, there are people using lesser platforms that don't have
or only recently acquired these facilities, so they can't do that. :-)

And some people just like arguing about religious issues.

> I don't see why MS and Windows developers - and users - should be the 
> only people to benefit from this fine idea.

They aren't. Like I said, I (and a few million others) have had the
benefit of this functionality for most of the last decade.

It appears that Unix may get such a solution in the form of
applications that support JVM as a scripting mechanism. This allows
any language that can be used to produce JVM bytecodes to be used for
scripting. There may be technical problems with this solution, but
it's a start.

If you're really interested, I started working on a TCP/IP solution
for this kind of thing a while back. It got aborted by a corporate
takeover, but I may still have the groundwork somewhere (if not, the
critical parts are easy to recreate).

        <mike


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