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Re: Ousterhout article on scripting applies to scheme

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Subject: Re: Ousterhout article on scripting applies to scheme
From: "Bill House" <bhouse@dazsi.com>
Date: 4 Apr 1997 15:21:41 GMT
Organization: DAZ Systems, Inc.
They're available, yes, but seriously -- I've never encountered one in the
field, and I've been designing and implementing PC applications since
before there was a PC (we called them microcomputers and they mostly ran
CP/M). Is it my fault that Mom and Pop businesses and major corporations
from coast to coast just don't happen to include Tcl in their requirements
(or approved list of WinTel platform tools)? 

FWIW, there is also no mention of Tcl in the Programmer's Paradise catalog,
even though there is an "Ask Dr. Morty" piece about scripting languages
that mentions Awk, Perl Rexx, etc.  Of course, that catalog is very
WinTel-centric. I guess my point is that, unless you are steeped in UNIX,
you may never have come into contact with Tcl. Lisp, OTOH, is still the
language of choice for a whole universe of non-platform-specific apps,
namely AI.

However, I do think this has gotten way out of hand. I have to admit, I
think I was too harsh in some of my statements. JO, if you're listening, I
apologize for the harshness. You've done lots of good work, and much of it
is available for free. That's class.

OTOH, I still disagree with the OOP comments, and still think that dynamic
typing and scripting languages had a long and successful career before Tcl.


Still, I wish you and all the other Tcl'ers out there the best.

Bill House
-- 
bhouse@dazsi.com
http://www.dazsi.com


lvirden@cas.org wrote in article <5i2g9q$4m6@srv13s4.cas.org>...
> 
> According to Bill House <bhouse@dazsi.com>:
> :FWIW, on the WinTel platform (which has the largest installed base I
know
> :of), I've never seen a Tcl program. You can knock WinTel, but you can't
> 
> I guess you just haven't looked very far.  Since most Tcl 7.6 / 8.0
> program or tclet run on Wintel, it should be pretty easy to find
> programs .  See <URL:http://www.teraform.com/%7Elvirden/tcl-faq/>
> for pointers to tcl catalogs of software, FAQs concerning Tcl on WinTel,
> pointers to at least one book specifically about writing Tcl on WinTel,
> etc.
> 
> -- 
> Larry W. Virden                 INET: lvirden@cas.org
> <URL:http://www.teraform.com/%7Elvirden/> <*> O- "We are all Kosh."
> Unless explicitly stated to the contrary, nothing in this posting should
> be construed as representing my employer's opinions.
> 

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